you've got the american civil liberties union, americans for tax reform, electronic frontierg foundation. you've got people across the political spec drum and 95 companies that might otherwise be suing each other sometimes. there's apple, microsoft, at&t,g intel, adobe, a lot of the largu companies in this space are behind this legislation. i think it has a lot of energy behind it. the bill coming out of committee with a good, strong bipartisan support is going to strength in the coalition, strengthened the effort. i agree that there needs to be more discussion of this legislation. there needs to be hearings early next year. but i think we have a good starting point now in a good place from which to move forward. >> host: konrad motyka, how often in your job to use the e-mail searches or cell phone searches? >> guest: my primary experience has been in the investigation of organized crime and narcotics. i personally haven't made tremendous use of that as a tool in that particular arena. so i don't want to put myself out there someone who uses it all the time. if i could address briefly wh